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	<description>The trials and tribulations of a modern crofter</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stonehead</title>
		<link>http://stonehead.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/maintaining-the-raised-beds/#comment-17682</link>
		<dc:creator>Stonehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can afford it, the best way to avoid wood preservatives is to use well-seasoned European oak or sweet chestnut, both of which are very durable although you need corrosion resistant fixings (stainless steel or brass). Western red cedar is durable but less so than these two, while larch is a step down from cedar. (But preservatives will make all of these last longer).

If you are using pressure-treated timber and are worried about toxicity, look for timber treated with tanalith E—that's the European approved, child-safe preservative. If it's okay for climbing frames and swings, it should be okay for gardens.

After that, you're looking at boron-based compounds, which are water soluble and non-toxic. I think they need to be used on green timbers, though, or at least ones that have a high moisture content.

I use Cuprinol Clear Wood Preserver on bee hives as it's insecticide free. I'm not worried about it being unsafe, but I know there are people who treat all preservatives with suspicion.

I wouldn't used old treated sleepers in the UK as most have been treated with very toxic compounds, quite a few of which are now illegal. Untreated hardwood sleepers would be good if you can get them.

Personally, I'd have preferred not to use wood at all and would have opted for reclaimed bricks or concrete blocks as these act as a heat sink (useful in our cool climate) and last for years. But it's not easy to find enough blocks or bricks for an area as large as ours. I know where there's a large fire-damaged pile of several thousand but the owners wanted 50 pence a block!

We do have some raised beds without any hard borders and these work well, but the maintenance requirements are different. Wood (and other hard borders) harbour weeds around the edges, while the edges of wood-lined beds can dry out faster (not a problem with blocks). Raised earth beds without borders don't harbour weeds, but tend to collapse outwards under their own weight and are eroded by birds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can afford it, the best way to avoid wood preservatives is to use well-seasoned European oak or sweet chestnut, both of which are very durable although you need corrosion resistant fixings (stainless steel or brass). Western red cedar is durable but less so than these two, while larch is a step down from cedar. (But preservatives will make all of these last longer).</p>
<p>If you are using pressure-treated timber and are worried about toxicity, look for timber treated with tanalith E—that&#8217;s the European approved, child-safe preservative. If it&#8217;s okay for climbing frames and swings, it should be okay for gardens.</p>
<p>After that, you&#8217;re looking at boron-based compounds, which are water soluble and non-toxic. I think they need to be used on green timbers, though, or at least ones that have a high moisture content.</p>
<p>I use Cuprinol Clear Wood Preserver on bee hives as it&#8217;s insecticide free. I&#8217;m not worried about it being unsafe, but I know there are people who treat all preservatives with suspicion.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t used old treated sleepers in the UK as most have been treated with very toxic compounds, quite a few of which are now illegal. Untreated hardwood sleepers would be good if you can get them.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d have preferred not to use wood at all and would have opted for reclaimed bricks or concrete blocks as these act as a heat sink (useful in our cool climate) and last for years. But it&#8217;s not easy to find enough blocks or bricks for an area as large as ours. I know where there&#8217;s a large fire-damaged pile of several thousand but the owners wanted 50 pence a block!</p>
<p>We do have some raised beds without any hard borders and these work well, but the maintenance requirements are different. Wood (and other hard borders) harbour weeds around the edges, while the edges of wood-lined beds can dry out faster (not a problem with blocks). Raised earth beds without borders don&#8217;t harbour weeds, but tend to collapse outwards under their own weight and are eroded by birds.</p>
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		<title>By: Cogidubnus</title>
		<link>http://stonehead.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/maintaining-the-raised-beds/#comment-17677</link>
		<dc:creator>Cogidubnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annpan, there certainly are non-toxic equivalents - we used to use them each year to treat the external surfaces of our (British National) beehives when we kept bees (Western Red Cedar is very very good but, without treatment, won't keep forever!) unfortunately I cannot recall the brandname, but you could do worse than checking out suppliers of beekeepers accessories...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annpan, there certainly are non-toxic equivalents - we used to use them each year to treat the external surfaces of our (British National) beehives when we kept bees (Western Red Cedar is very very good but, without treatment, won&#8217;t keep forever!) unfortunately I cannot recall the brandname, but you could do worse than checking out suppliers of beekeepers accessories&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: annpan</title>
		<link>http://stonehead.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/maintaining-the-raised-beds/#comment-17654</link>
		<dc:creator>annpan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doh... I wish I had read this before I built my 4 frames for my beds (which I did today)... I think they will need some more work :-(

I have another 12 to dig from scratch, and build frames for and plant up. At least I have a better idea of what to do now.

Is there anything that is suitable to treat the wood with? I know you shouldn't treat them with cuprinol or anything toxic but I was thinking veg oil or something, just to prolong the life of the wood... or is that just crazy talk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doh&#8230; I wish I had read this before I built my 4 frames for my beds (which I did today)&#8230; I think they will need some more work <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have another 12 to dig from scratch, and build frames for and plant up. At least I have a better idea of what to do now.</p>
<p>Is there anything that is suitable to treat the wood with? I know you shouldn&#8217;t treat them with cuprinol or anything toxic but I was thinking veg oil or something, just to prolong the life of the wood&#8230; or is that just crazy talk?</p>
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		<title>By: alison13</title>
		<link>http://stonehead.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/maintaining-the-raised-beds/#comment-17649</link>
		<dc:creator>alison13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy,
I can relate personally to your raised beds and planting, but being mechanically challenged, I use the beautiful concept of division-of-labor for my carpentry projects. Scott, my great housemate who trades work for rent, handles them. Everyone benefits . . . . .all a part of my evolving concept of the Diamond Cut Life. Please come visit at http://alison97215.wordpress.com.
Best,
Alison in Portland, Oregon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy,<br />
I can relate personally to your raised beds and planting, but being mechanically challenged, I use the beautiful concept of division-of-labor for my carpentry projects. Scott, my great housemate who trades work for rent, handles them. Everyone benefits . . . . .all a part of my evolving concept of the Diamond Cut Life. Please come visit at <a href="http://alison97215.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://alison97215.wordpress.com</a>.<br />
Best,<br />
Alison in Portland, Oregon</p>
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		<title>By: Stonehead</title>
		<link>http://stonehead.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/maintaining-the-raised-beds/#comment-17645</link>
		<dc:creator>Stonehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, the galvanising method is not usually specified on the label. I do have a collection of reclaimed brass screws I use for important outdoor jobs, but the raised beds aren't one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the galvanising method is not usually specified on the label. I do have a collection of reclaimed brass screws I use for important outdoor jobs, but the raised beds aren&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: cycleman</title>
		<link>http://stonehead.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/maintaining-the-raised-beds/#comment-17637</link>
		<dc:creator>cycleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nails were propably electro-galvanised which is very thin or cadmium plated.  Hot-dipped galvanised is best as the process gives a thicker zinc coating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nails were propably electro-galvanised which is very thin or cadmium plated.  Hot-dipped galvanised is best as the process gives a thicker zinc coating.</p>
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		<title>By: AussieJ</title>
		<link>http://stonehead.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/maintaining-the-raised-beds/#comment-17598</link>
		<dc:creator>AussieJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a co-incidence Stoney. I am doing much the same work at present as we head into the cold weather, while your weather is warming. The main difference is my garden beds have old railway sleepers around them so I do not have the worry of splitting timbers. I simply turn them upside down to help continue their long life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a co-incidence Stoney. I am doing much the same work at present as we head into the cold weather, while your weather is warming. The main difference is my garden beds have old railway sleepers around them so I do not have the worry of splitting timbers. I simply turn them upside down to help continue their long life.</p>
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